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  Professional Diver Jorge
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 06-12-2017, 10:10 AM - Forum: General Hobby Talk - No Replies

Professional Treasure Diver & Treasure Hunter Jorge Andani, new Gazette writer

I firmly believe in the mystery, I also believe that the lives of those we love and feel passion for the pursuit of treasures are, in some strange way, united. That's why, when, some time ago, this capricious fate made my friend George Streeter and I know each other, I felt we would do something together, George asked me to write something for his little treasure hunting newspaper, and of course I could not refuse.


My name is Jorge Andani,
I am a professional diver, that is my job, but if I had to define myself, I would say that I am an adventurer, a traveler and a restless soul.
I could not say exactly why, but I have always felt an enormous and strange attraction to the bottom of the sea and especially for the wrecks and all those mysteries that remain hidden and forgotten under its waters. The fact that I was born on the shores of the Mediterranean made it easy for me to start my first incursions and underwater explorations from an early age, little by little this youthful hobby became a way of life that made my way, in time, take me , Inevitably, to become a treasure hunter.
The sea is the bed of countless ships that at some point in history left the surface and began to populate the unfathomable submarine lands. Shipwrecks caused by the forces of nature, man-made accidents, tragic consequences of war ... Each sunken ship is the product of specific circumstances and keeps a unique story inside. The wrecks are vestiges of the past times, relics that sometimes reach the thousands of years of antiquity. Investigating, exploring, and unraveling these secrets has always seemed to me to be an exciting activity, surrounded largely by a certain romantic air and a strong halo of mystery.
  Thirty years ago I dug my first wreck, since then I have found and identified more than a hundred lost boats from virtually every era, and I have always done it with true passion, sometimes for work and sometimes for pure liking, but always with Respect and love of history that each and every one of these shipwrecks.
Some of my experiences:
I started my career as a professional diver in the late 1980s specializing in the naval sector, doing work all over the national territory.
Later I traveled to South America where I was part of the search and recovery expedition of the "Our Lady of Light", sunk in 1792 in Rio de La Plata, Montevideo (Uruguay), where we recovered a huge treasure composed of hundreds of Gold and silver coins, bullion and various jewels. Managed to locate several shipwrecks in the area, including the ship "Roxane", sunk in July 1945 which is said to be carrying a personal cargo of Benito Mussolini
In 1994 I traveled to Brazil where I continued my training in the commercial diving sector, doing deep diving work on the oil platform for the company Universal Services concessionaire of PETROBRAS, with Headquarters in Fortaleza (Ceará).
In 1996 I was hired by the company Aqua Maritima, based in Sao Paolo, where I participated as a specialist diver and submarine electronics operator, in three campaigns aboard the underwater exploration ship Paolo Cesar II, obtaining the location and identification of A dozen historical shipwrecks at depths between 40 and 120m. Of depth, located in the Parcel of Manoel luis, a mountain range of submarine reefs located in front of the coast of Sao Luis de Maranhao (declared natural park, and one of the most important cemeteries of ships of America).
Later I travel to Amazonas where I make a series of contacts and from there I go to the province of Minas Gerais, joining a group of gold prospectors (gold and diamond prospectors) entering the raft through the Rio das Mortes. Diving for the extraction of gold.
I traveled to Chile, where, together with an Argentine businessman, and a former submarine lawyer of the Chilean Navy, we founded the submarine exploration company Reyes Católicos S.A. , With the authorization of the National Monuments Board of Chile and as director of operations, organized and directed the search for the Spanish Patache "San Juan de Dios", sunk in 1620 on the coast of Arauco From Chile). With a shipment of 300,000 silver coins.
After that, and already working on my own, I lead a search and underwater exploration expedition on Mocha Island, 32 kilometers off the coast of Tirua (famous for the nearly 30 shipwrecks registered on its coast and have always been a base Of equipment of different corsairs and pirates) where to the Island Robinson Crusoe (Archipelago Juan Fernandez) where we realized works of exploration and location of the English Galleon "Speedwell" .logging to recover different objects and its enormous anchor.
Return to Spain, where I continue my activities in commercial diving and technical diving exploration, focusing my work on historical research and location of shipwrecks belonging to the two world conflicts and the period of the Spanish Civil War, as well as different Ancient ships of the Roman, Greek and Phoenician times, and several galleons and frigates sunk on the Mediterranean coast.
I continue to search, because after many projects carried out and hundreds of boats explored and rescued, I still think that the real reason for this passion is not in the findings, but in the search ...

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  Scoop On Summer Favorites
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 06-12-2017, 10:07 AM - Forum: General Hobby Talk - No Replies

Scoop On Summer Favorites

A classic summer indulgence.
Attitude determines how well you do it Scoop On Summer Favorites A classic summer indulgence. (NAPSI)-I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream and novelties during the summer months. As temperatures soar, there's no better time to enjoy these summer favorites. The origins of ice cream go back centuries: Alexander the Great enjoyed snow and ice, flavored with honey and nectar. Historians estimate that ice cream as we know it evolved in Europe during the 16th century, and made its first appearance in America during the early 1700s. Americans today indulge more than any other nationality in the world, averaging a whopping 45 pints of ice cream per person, per year. America's top five favorite flavors are vanilla, chocolate, Neapolitan, butter pecan and chocolate chip. The novelties industry originated in 1905 with the accidental discovery of the Popsicle: young Frank Epperson of San Francisco left a drink with a stirring stick in it on his porch during a very cold night. Today there are over 1 billion Popsicle s eaten in the U.S. every year, with orange the favorite flavor. Ice cream itself may not have been invented in America, but the Banana Split is definitely American by birth. Like no other dessert, the Banana Split is a reflection of America's creativity, imagination, passion for indulgence...and love of ice cream.

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  It pays to be a member
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 06-12-2017, 10:04 AM - Forum: General Hobby Talk - No Replies

joining  Incentive!

A Professional Treasure Hunters Historical Society membership & a Gazette subscriptions is now $50 year. Paid members are allowed to purchase a new metal detector a year @ **Streeters for up to 20% off suggested retail & able to register in advance to any BONE event for up to 20% off. **Must provide ID # .
Paid PTHHS members can now get up to 20% off a metal detector @ Streeters and   if pd in advance get up 20% off for BONE events. To join Send check to PTHHS, 307 Main St., Marlborough, NH 03455

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  Beach Finds
Posted by: Maverick - 05-30-2017, 08:23 PM - Forum: Treasures Found! - Replies (1)

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Not a bad start for the season.  We didn't go in the water, but still did okay.  Found the bracelet about 2 feet from where another detectorist had just dug a hole not 10 minutes earlier.  As usual we found lots of trash, more than we were expecting since the weather hasn't exactly been 'beach weather'.

We can't see the images, so we're trying again...hope this works.
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  Check out the Georges
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 05-23-2017, 11:37 AM - Forum: RELIC ROUND UP! - No Replies

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/i...&fr=my-myy

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  buy a AT Pro & get a free Ace 200
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 05-15-2017, 12:39 PM - Forum: Tips & Tricks - Replies (1)

Members of this forum, until May 17, 2017 who identify themselves at my shop are able  buy  1 AT Pro for $649 at Streeters and get either a free Go Find 20 or a free Ace 200.

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  tricky question
Posted by: mxt300digger - 04-04-2017, 10:35 AM - Forum: General Hobby Talk - Replies (1)

Hi guys,
 I have a question about our machines we use...in particular the Whites model MXT. Ok here goes. I've been using this machine for quite a few years now and have gotten very used to the way it operates ie; programs, tones, adjustments etc, now if I change coils could I assume that the basic operation of the machine does not change as far as what I'm used too? Again the programs, tones and adjustments. The reason I ask is I'm curious if a different coil will make the machine itself respond differently to targets in the ground....

Input is good..happy hunting!

Ron

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  UN-REAL
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 04-02-2017, 09:24 AM - Forum: The Chat Room - No Replies

The Un-Real Eight Reales

By Julio “Jules” Razquin


Most of my metal detecting outings would be preceded by some research, but this one was different: Back in March of 2009 I set out to meet with a friend with whom I’d had many a great detecting adventure, only this time it was not for metal detecting, but with the purpose of checking out a house he was working on that was for rent. You see, things in my life were not exactly going according to plan, and I found myself quite abruptly having to make some serious decisions about my marriage, and life in general.
As anyone reading this knows, metal detecting can be quite therapeutic: there is a lot to be said for time spent alone, or with friends, searching for history in the great outdoors. Sometimes all one needs is some time out alone, doing what one enjoys best, to chew on things and get some perspective.
So, as I am sure most everyone reading this does, I carry my metal detector with me in the car wherever I go. Well, most of the time, anyway. That Saturday morning, as I glanced at my watch while driving, I realized I was way too early for my meeting. I let my foot off the pedal as I drove up the dirt road that back in the 1700’s had been transited by the very first people to settle the town I live in. As I reached a crest, I saw to my left a field I’d already detected, along with a cellar hole which had not provided anything more than nails and the occasional shotgun shell. Having passed the field, something caught my eye on the right side of the road. The thick of the brush and trees could not hide from me the features that bore all the signs indicative to the presence of a cellar hole.
For some of the folk reading this, the term “cellar hole” might only be familiar by way of reading magazines such as this one, or on online forums. Here in New England, much of the wilderness is dotted with these history-rich features, which are testament to the grit and courage of the settlers who helped found this nation. Basically, what you’ll find is a symmetrical manmade depression, sometimes up to six feet in depth, lined with field stone, or cut granite. One look at the handiwork of these people and you’re left in awe of not only the human effort, but the skills and knowledge necessary to construct the foundations of their homes.
I’d not seen this one before, and given the fact that I’d not driven before that far up the road, I excused myself. I wondered if my friend had, and whether he’d detected there before.
With about half an hour to spare, I fired up my machine, and clambered up the embankment, not at all bothered or dissuaded by the thick brush. Reaching the top, I now could see what undoubtedly had been the foundation to a home. I like to think that given my experience I can estimate the age of these by their current state, and the stonework. This one was old: the stones from the surrounding landscape had been put to good use, creating retaining walls on four sides, and a solid center structure meant to serve as the foundation to a hearth. Much of this particular cellar hole had succumbed to nature: the elements and flora had been at work for at least two hundred years, robbing it of its symmetry, toppling stones into what once had been a storage space beneath the home. And yet there it was still, as if the very spirit of those who’d dug and lined the hole were still present, defiantly whispering down the centuries to anyone who cared to see.
Since 2005, I’ve used two brands of metal detectors: Garrett, and now Minelab. In my nine years metal detecting, I came to realize that it matters not what brand machine you use, but how well you know it. The only reason I am mentioning the Minelab SE Pro is context, and to simply get that fact out of the way. It’s the machine which has proved ultimately the best fit for the kind of detecting I perform, and where I do it: simple as that. No matter what machine you use, if you are going to indulge in detecting cellar holes, you are sure to encounter what most call “trash” (iron, iron, and some more iron), and for such occasions it is best to be equipped with a smaller search coil. So, in light of the fact that I expected not only limited swinging space (because of the dense vegetation), but also a vast amount of iron, I opted to use a smaller coil, the FBS 800.
Typically, I perform a slow and meticulous scan of the immediate edge of the foundation, but this was proving to be quite the challenge. After convincing myself that there was nothing to be found there, I eventually opted for the wide and less densely grown area which I assessed to be the “driveway”, a level stretch of ground that lay between the foundation and what I recognized to be where a barn had once stood.
After just a couple of minutes, the unmistakable tone rang through my headphones…
With a bit of effort, I cut a square plug through the soil and myriad of small roots, releasing a smell which I have come to equate with time travel. The moist and musty scent I am talking about is one of the most exciting ever to me, as it always precedes an encounter with history. I knew for a fact that what most likely lay in wait was a coin.
At no more than five inches’ depth, I spotted the verdigris edge of what I knew was a copper coin. Could it be a Large Cent, maybe? No… It was a King George II Halfpenny! As much as there was on the coin to identify it as such, I could not immediately discern a date, but it had to be mid-18th century, for sure. My little impromptu adventure had paid off! I scanned the hole again (just in case, because you never know), and then covered it up as I wondered if there were more such finds in store. Ten seconds later, and no more than a foot away, I had an answer.
From the same depth as the King George coin, came a very deteriorated, yet identifiable Fugio Cent. “It’s a spill”, I muttered to myself. How else could these two coins from roughly the same period be so close together, at the same depth? And without missing a beat, I proceeded to scan much more slowly now the area. Sure enough, another good target!
Digging now a little deeper than the previous two coins, and no more than a foot away from where these had been found, a larger circular shape came into view. The sheer size and weight of this coin immediately overwhelmed me with excitement and curiosity. The size was identical to a Morgan dollar I’d found the year before, but this one showed no silver. The green-brown and sticky patina was nothing like what I’d seen on any coin. I brushed it gently with a toothbrush, and watched as a bust starter to reveal itself. On the other side, a coat of arms began to appear. It was Spanish! Wait a minute! Could it be an Eight Reales!?
Still tingling all over, I realized I was now late for my appointment with my friend. I hustled out of there, the coins tightly packed in a container full of dirt.
My friend and I gently rinsed and brushed the coins: the two coppers were exactly what I’d guessed, albeit in the kind of shape you’d expect in such soil conditions after more than two hundred years. But the Eight Reales was cleaning up much better, as I expected silver should. Still, there was something slightly “off” about its appearance.
As far as silver goes, I knew that old silver would sometimes surface with a dull gray and even black color. I was not about to push the boundaries by applying any more cleaning than I’d already done: the features were distinct and clear, and the date was a glaring 1775. And yet it remained a dull gray, which I wrote off as the effect of age and soil conditions. It was time for me to scan it, and report to Dr. Philip Mossman.
I first came in contact with Dr. Mossman after stumbling onto a website in an effort to educate myself on Spanish silver coins that had circulated in the American colonies. He is a much revered figure in the realm of numismatics in America, and is an author: I highly recommend his book, Money of the American Colonies and Confederation. Via email, Dr. Mossman had asked me to report to him any coin finds predating 1900, and as I’d done before, I submitted to him images of my latest find, along with any other details he might find useful. He has been for years putting together a database consisting of Colonial coin finds in an effort to establish a census and patterns of distribution. Two days later, Dr. Mossman replied: “Congratulations on your find! You do realize that your coin is a counterfeit, right?”…
I searched for images of Eight Reales on the internet, and sure enough, my coin was most definitely different. First off, the image of King Charles III seemed almost cartoonish in comparison to the busts on the images I found. Secondly, there were numerous discrepancies, such as “double strikes” of letters, and other details which further substantiated Dr. Mossman’s conclusion. I have to admit that the realization that my coin was a counterfeit robbed me of some of the excitement of its discovery. That was until a couple of days later, when he sent an email in which he asked if I wanted to be famous.
It turned out that he had forwarded the images I’d sent to a gentleman by the name of Bob Gurney. Mr. Gurney, an expert on counterfeit Colonial coinage, had been for years doing something akin to what Dr. Mossman had been doing: collecting information on as many contemporary counterfeit Spanish silver coins as he could, as well as collecting specimens himself. Mr. Gurney was writing a book on the topic of counterfeit Reales, and he seemed quite keen to include my specimen in his book.
And here’s what Bob Gurney had to say about my coin in an email:
Hello Julio,
After seeing the coin I recalled seeing it from an earlier note.
It is definitely what I would call a Class 1 Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit - an absolutely spectacular find for a dug coin. Most dug examples are very poorly preserved. Can you tell me where you found it and if possible any history associated with the location?
The 1775 date itself is a rare date. There is only one other 1775 Class 1 counterfeit known to exist. Yours is a different die pair. All dates before 1778 are rather scarce.
All together we have assembled a nearly complete date set from 1771 to 1824 - with only 2 years missing 1774 and 1776. The 1774 and 1776 examples we have seen up to this point in time are all modern forgeries.
Phil is editing the final draft of our book on Portrait Mexican Counterfeit coins which includes 538 different varieties in Class 1.
Our book defines 4 Classes of Counterfeits.
Class 1 are the oldest made before 1830 and meant to circulate as coins. (538 listed - which has grown to 550)
Class 2 are the silver restrikes made for use in China between 1830 and 1930 - these coins at times look exactly like genuine coins. (27 varieties - 81 examples)
Class 3 are counterfeits made to defraud collectors - they date from 1930 to the present. (177 varieties - unknown number total in the thousands)
Class 4 are original coins that have been altered to turn them into more valuable coins - Frauds. (Over 1000 that I have reviewed in the past 10 years alone).

If we do another edition with an addendum for recently discovered coins I would love to include your coin. It is unique.
Unfortunately your coin was not early enough to make the book. I have a bunch ready to go in an Update or Addenda volume.
So, needless to say, I was now not feeling at all disappointed in having found a counterfeit coin. As a matter of fact, I was feeling rather smug, and quite proud of the fact, but that’s not the only reason why I am writing this article.
It was only through the interaction with such professionals as Dr. Mossman and Bob Gurney that I discovered an oft-forgotten chapter of coinage in American history, and the provenance of what otherwise would probably have gone down as just another great coin find in my journals. Counterfeit Colonial America coinage is something of an obscure, if not entirely unknown subject to many wielding a detector: once you start learning about it, you can’t help but be left in awe of the lengths people (and even governments) were willing to go to in order to produce such coins as the one I found.
Our responsibilities, as “Relic Hunters”, or whatever other term you might prefer, is to educate ourselves, and educate others. In doing so, not only do we contribute to our community, but to dispelling the myths being woven and used against us. We owe it to each other, and to everyone, to act responsibly, and treat the items we discover with the care and respect they deserve so as to ensure their preservation and educational potentials.
Oh, I almost forgot... Almost exactly a year later, no more than a quarter of a mile from where I’d found the counterfeit Eight Reales, I found a genuine one, bearing the same year! And after studying closer another item I’d found back in 2006, I discovered it was yet another counterfeit Eight Reales, only this one was pewter and had little to show of its former infamous self.
Recommended reading:
Money of the American Colonies and Confederation, By Dr. Philip Mossman
Counterfeit Portrait Eight-Reales: The Un-Real Reales, by Bob Gurney

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  Search coils
Posted by: mxt300digger - 03-29-2017, 07:44 AM - Forum: General Hobby Talk - Replies (3)

Hello everyone, 
I have a question about coil comparisons. I have a Whites MXT 300 and I'm searching with the 12" super coil that came with the machine. Ok, how would the 6"x10" DBL. "D" stack up against the 12 ?

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  work shops at BONE 24
Posted by: Sea Hunter - 03-28-2017, 05:08 PM - Forum: Let's Go Diggin'!!! - No Replies

Work shops Room 14 @ BONE 24 Hobby Show April 29, 2017 @ Keene, NH Rec Center,
312 Washington Note! changes may still happen 
$10 cover charge for show and Workshops
8:30am CT Todd mini XP Deus boot camp. Bring your XP 
10:00am Anderson Metal Detector Shafts
11:00:am Minelab Americas and Debbie Smikoski
12:00 Chris Redmond identifying virgin metal detecting woodland sites and general research. 
1:00pm Terry Smith & relic hunting
2:00pm Colonial Farm Field Tactics, CT Todd

Glenn "Doc" Watson from Hillsville, VA will be demonstrating  cleaning finds with electrolysis  
during Saturday's Hobby show

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